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Old Mar 27, 2010, 07:53 AM // 07:53   #41
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You should get a permanent dishonourable.

It's RA, if you don't like it's randomness, leave. But stating that those who do accept the format and want to play with the team as it comes are griefing is idiotic and shows an inhealthy amount of selfishness.
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 08:04 AM // 08:04   #42
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I know of one solution to fixing this. Make it stick so you can't be rid of it next time you log off. That will take care of people who just up and leave at the end of the day thinking it's not gonna bother them.
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 08:45 AM // 08:45   #43
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I hate how you get dishonorable points for actually reporting leechers :P

The dishonorable system is a very broken one, but as people have said, it was probably worse before.
You only get that if less than 1/3 of your team report the person, and I can understand. It is there so people dont abuse the leech reporting to get people barred from PvP, which I can see happening. I know it is hard on those who do the right thing and report, so maybe letting team mates know would be a good idea
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 04:16 AM // 04:16   #44
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You only get that if less than 1/3 of your team report the person, and I can understand. It is there so people dont abuse the leech reporting to get people barred from PvP, which I can see happening. I know it is hard on those who do the right thing and report, so maybe letting team mates know would be a good idea
players also have to repeatedly doing that to get dishonorable hacks, i am almost always the only person who report but I've never get the dishonorable hack.
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 05:30 AM // 05:30   #45
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RA doesn't belong in this game.
RA belongs in the game. Players with your type of mentality, however, don't.

Thank GOD you're not a Developer for Anet.
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 05:48 AM // 05:48   #46
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You must be some kind of douche or something that can't figure out how to play by the rules so you decide to whine about it instead.
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 07:40 AM // 07:40   #47
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 08:20 AM // 08:20   #48
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GW is a team based game
correct, anet should remove heroes and henchmen as well.
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 08:33 AM // 08:33   #49
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 08:46 AM // 08:46   #50
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A player is able to choose the roles that h/h should perform.
That means that h/h can satisfy the basic idea of team play in GW.
cool rationalization of an anti team feature being team oriented, but you fail to explain how the randomness of teams in RA makes it anti team play,

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Old Mar 28, 2010, 08:53 AM // 08:53   #51
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RA is a random format where one is not able to choose his party members.
GW is a team based game where characters are designed to not be able to do it all, and where certain classes are needed to fill specific roles.
The concept of RA isn't compatible with the basic idea of GW.
The fact that RA has always been a part of the game and the fact that it is one of the more popular forms of pvp is proof enough that it belongs in the game. But just because you can't pick who your team is does not mean you can't work as a team. I've seen teams without healers, roll over teams with them. RA is more of an emphasis about communication and coordination. Sure on occasion you'll get an overly bad group build or group of players, but that isn't enough to claim that it isn't compatible.

Its that kind of thinking that has led to the crappy meta that is all other pvp. The one or two cookie cutter builds that people run in HA, if you aren't class X running skills A B C D E F G and H, then you can go sit in the corner and wait for Anet to make your class useful. Yeah that sounds real fun.
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 09:07 AM // 09:07   #52
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cool rationalization of an anti team feature being team oriented, but you fail to explain how the randomness of teams in RA makes it anti team play,
PUGs are what should be removed due to their randomness, not heroes.

Besides, without heroes, the game would be dead long ago. Fact.
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #53
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 10:27 AM // 10:27   #54
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lol guys you are serious funny bussines, do you whine to the goverment too when your chosen lotto number doesn't match the RANDOM winners ones?

A suggestion, go back to basic school and ask your teacher what the hell RANDOM mean, when you understand the meaning of RANDOM, go back and try to figure what "RANDOM ARENA" mean.

Do you remember the internet meme...

Longcat is looooooooong

Then remember this new meme...

Random Arena is Raaaaandooooom

So if you don't like random, don't play it, but don't try to justify leaving your party and spoil the fun of more intelligent player who understand the meaning of random and choose to play that format.

All the penalty you can get is not enough for you, leavers.

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Old Mar 28, 2010, 12:29 PM // 12:29   #55
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2. if you feel that a random selection of players does form a team, that means that regardless of how poor that selection is or how poor the players' skill level is, you should suck it up and fight till the end.

But you can not have both.
So - suck it up or stay out of it.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30   #56
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If RA is compatible with the idea of team play, then there is absolutely NO REASON whatsoever to leave a team that does not meet your expectation on what it's composition
glad farmers don't give a shit about playing for fun, they just want glad points. which has nothing whatsoever to do with ra being or not being team based.

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PUGs are what should be removed due to their randomness, not heroes.

Besides, without heroes, the game would be dead long ago. Fact.
what does this even have to do with anything?
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 09:44 PM // 21:44   #57
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lol guys you are serious funny bussines, do you whine to the goverment too when your chosen lotto number doesn't match the RANDOM winners ones?

A suggestion, go back to basic school and ask your teacher what the hell RANDOM mean, when you understand the meaning of RANDOM, go back and try to figure what "RANDOM ARENA" mean.

Do you remember the internet meme...

Longcat is looooooooong

Then remember this new meme...

Random Arena is Raaaaandooooom

So if you don't like random, don't play it, but don't try to justify leaving your party and spoil the fun of more intelligent player who understand the meaning of random and choose to play that format.

All the penalty you can get is not enough for you, leavers.
Rly? What's so fun about losing? I'll give you a perfect example, too:

Your team: 4 meleers

Opposition: 3 B.Surgers and a monk.

Do you srsly expect to win that match?

No one ever resigns [so keep that in mind].

Do you expect players to play through that each and every single MFing time? Because Random Arenas is Random?

If you think you're going to beat that team then I declare you officially retarded.
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 10:21 PM // 22:21   #58
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 11:16 PM // 23:16   #59
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If you think you're going to beat that team then I declare you officially retarded.
So you're going to lose. Suck it up, type /dance let them get it over quickly and re-enter and hope for better luck. Or if its even viable, kill one or two of them, get some faction screw them over on the "perfect" match.

If you don't want to take the extra 30 seconds to die, then leave and take the 15 minutes between games. The dishonorable helps far more than it hinders, and the 4 melee vs 3 b-surges and a monk really doesn't happen all that often. Or if it does to you, maybe think about playing another class, gotta be at least one caster class you enjoy playing.
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 11:29 PM // 23:29   #60
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By pressing the Enter-button in RA you agree to participate in a match or suffer the consequences for failing to do so.
If you can not deal with the randomness of a random format - then you need to ask yourself what you are doing there in the first place.
but still, has nothing to do with how ra fits into a team based game or fails to do so. and i don't farm glads, i just play, no clue why you're trying to argue that.
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